Should the Energy Transfer Partners Executive’s graves be open to Protest?

According to DailyMail.com, the Vets have arrived at Standing Rock and they have already begun to recover some of the Water Protectors’ stolen canoes from the police. According to the ACLU, Obama’s federal force of National Guards, along with state police from 76 different law enforcement agencies, from 10 different states, have been using many forms of intimidation against Native American residents and Water Protectors alike.

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Of the many tactics used (many that we’ve reported already), there are some under-reported tactics that have been reported by the residents of the camp. These include the Police and/or Oil Security stealing, and in many cases, destroying private property. Reports of them committing acts of vandalism on private property and of the theft of many canoes that were on the banks of the Turtle Island burial grounds are beginning to grow.

The same burial grounds that police insist on standing upon right in the faces of their historically marginalized ancestors.

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We would never suggest that anyone desecrate any deceased American’s grave sites. One has to wonder how the C-level executives at Energy Transfer Partners (full list found here) would feel if Water Protectors showed up to stand on, and block access to Chairman & C.E.O., Kelcy L. Warren’s parent’s graves. How would President & C.O.O, Matthew S. Ramsey do with this type of insult to his parent’s and grandparent’s final resting places? Ask the Westboro Church about how it made them feel…

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Credit: The Satanist Temple performing a same-sex ritual at the grave site of Westboro Church founder Fred Phelps’ mother, Catherine Johnston

An act this brazen might finally get their attention, but this would be stooping to their level. We don’t condone this action, but sticking in hyperbole, this would be the next logical step to showing the super wealthy that they are not untouchable from the rabble, the masses, and the underprivileged, that they resent so much. The police can protect the rich and their property for only so long. Ask the French about that…

The above is a quick video describing the French Revolution, but I have to point out that there is 0 evidence that Marie Antoinette ever said, “Let them eat cake”.

Stay Efin peaceful my friends

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Energy Transfer Partners Chairman and C.E.O., Kelcy L. Warren
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Should Anyone Vote for Religious Candidates?

 

Anyone who claims they talk to invisible entities, and that those entities talk back to them and guide them, should be considered dangerous. Many atheists use logic instead. This can limit the excuses you can provide for saying or doing something stupid. You only have yourself to blame. 

I’ll take that kind of accountability in our leadership All-Day over those religious politicians that assure you to listen to the voices that are only in their heads. Or is it worse to follow those that lie about hearing them?

Should we start asking if someone talks to and/or hears their God’s voice or voices when they want to run for office? Not to discriminate or disqualify them, but to allow voters the informed choice to determine if they want someone that hears, or claims to hear voices, to be a representative of them in their government? What do you think?

 

Efin’s Thoughts:

Best not to vote for those types any longer…Someone who is Secular, or even religious but willing to admit they do not speak to a supernatural being, would be a much better leader than otherwise. Self-Accountability is the best way to hold someone to their word, and to more easily determine who is to blame when a mistake is made. If they can simply turn to “Well, it must have been God’s will” or “God works in mysterious ways”, who can be held to account for their actions in office? Especially if the majority of the voters believe that it is possible, even if they can’t themselves, for someone to hear and speak with God. It can easily insulate someone from any accountability…not to mention, that if they are NOT lying about hearing voices and talking to them, they should be in a hospital for evaluation. Certainly not someone you should be voting for to represent you in any position of leadership or government

-Efin

 

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The Original Declaration of Independence did not contain “Creator”

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Committee of Five, 1776” by John Trumbull – US Capitol. Licensed under Public Domain via Commons.

(much of this text is copied directly from a website built to share the research lead by Jim Allison, a certificated paralegal and historical-legal researcher and writer; and Susan Batte, who is a lawyer and a member of the US Supreme Court bar who practices in Virginia. Both have been involved in the separation of church and state debate, researching and writing extensively on the subject, for several years. The direct link can be found here)

Authors of Research Conclusions:

  • The original version Jefferson wrote did not contain the word Creator.
  • A copy that John Adams wrote in his own hand did not contain the word creator
  • At some point after Jefferson wrote the original draft and before it was submitted to Congress it was changed to the wording with regards to creator that we know today

There are several possibilities

  1. Jefferson changed his mind and reworded it to what we know today
  2. The change was suggested by Adams.
  3. The change was suggested by Franklin.
  4. The change was suggested by both Adams and Franklin.
  5. The change was suggested by one or both of the other two members of the committee of five or all four of them that was given the task of producing this document.

Jefferson wrote most of the text even some of the changes which scholars are pretty sure was suggested by either Adams or Franklin. There are places in the handwriting of Jefferson yet the wording and style sounds more Franklin or Adams than Jefferson

In other places it appears that Adams made some changes in his own hand and perhaps Franklin did as well.

Thus, bottom line, Jefferson’s original draft did not contain the word creator. Sometime between writing that original draft and submission to Congress that wording was changed to the wording we know today

The events that took place between the original draft and submission to Congress were

  • Consultation and submission of the draft to Adams
  • Consultation and possible submission to Franklin
  • Possible consultation and submission to the other two members of the Committee of Five

At least two maybe three revisions to various sections of the Declaration of Independence including this creator section in which the original language was deleted and the current language was inserted in its place, took place before the submission to Congress. Input or ideas from both Adams and Franklin, for certain and maybe the other two were incorporated.

Handwriting is not a reliable barometer since scholars feel that Jefferson probably wrote most of text including some sections that are known to be ideas of one of the others and others wrote sections that might be ideas or suggestions by Jefferson or the others. In addition there are a few places that appear to be in the hand of Adams and perhaps Franklin yet still other sections that scholars just plain have no idea whose hand wrote it for certain. Maybe Jefferson, maybe Adams, maybe Franklin, maybe one of the other two, they just don’t know

The only absolute is Jefferson’s original draft did not include the word creator. No one can say with complete certainty who was responsible for the change and the addition of “Creator.”

You can find the original documents here Original Rough Draught of the Declaration of Independence

Taken from Wikipedia Founding Fathers of United States Which can be found here

Franklin T. Lambert (2003) has examined the religious affiliations and beliefs of the Founders. Of the 55 delegates to the 1787 Constitutional Convention, 49 were Protestants, and two were Roman Catholics (D. Carroll, and Fitzsimons).[18] Among the Protestant delegates to the Constitutional Convention, 28 were Church of England (or Episcopalian, after the American Revolutionary War was won), eight were Presbyterians, seven were Congregationalists, two were Lutherans, two were Dutch Reformed, and two were Methodists.[18]

A few prominent Founding Fathers were anti-clerical Christians such as Thomas Jefferson,[19][20][21] who constructed the Jefferson Bible, and Benjamin Franklin.[22]

Historian Gregg L. Frazer argues that the leading Founders (Adams, Jefferson, Franklin, Wilson, Morris, Madison, Hamilton, and Washington) were neither Christians nor Deists, but rather supporters of a hybrid “theistic rationalism

Efin’s conclusions: Keeping in mind that only the conclusions were presented here, extensive research is available on this. I have tried to get you started with the links I provided. These links offer further links to verify its content. Based on all that, the “Creator” line was simply added to impose that man does not give another man his unalienable rights. He is born with them and they can not be taken away by another man. This document assured that would be the new government’s starting point. That these words are so focused on and the rest of the document largely ignored by modern Americans, is the real shame. The document is beautifully written and was approved by a wide range of religious and non-religious affiliations. This was not meant to say that God fought and won independence and our nation’s rights and freedom. Men did that. Founding Fathers known and unknown to us gave us these rights that they felt were unalienable and undeniable from birth.

(Well, only for men; white men; but that revolution came later and is for another time)